Samsung Q7FN vs Q8FN Review (QN55Q7FN vs QN55Q8FN, QN65Q7FN vs QN65Q8FN, QN75Q7FN vs QN75Q8FN)
If you are searching a LED TV that has excellent picture quality and HDR performance, Samsung Q8FN and Samsung Q7FN might be able to meet your expectation. Both of them are parts of Samsung’s 2018 4K HDR QLED TV which bring some improvement and new features over 2017 model of QLED TV. Both of them equally come in some screen sizes options which you can suit according to your budget and the area of your room. In the market, Q7FN comes in 3 screen sizes option including 55 Inch (QN55Q7FN), 65 inch (QN65Q7FN), and 75 Inch (QN75QFN), while Q8FN also comes with 3 screen size including 55 inch (QN55Q8FN), 65 Inch (QN65Q8FN), and 75 inch (QN75Q8FN). And with the same screen (QN55Q7FN vs QN55Q8FN, QN65Q7FN vs QN65Q8FN, QN75Q7FN vs QN75Q8FN), Q8FN as the higher series is sold hundreds dollar more expensive than Q7FN. So, what advantages offered by Q8FN over Q7FN so it is sold hundred dollars more expensive?
Samsung Q7FN vs Q8FN Key Specs
|Specs and Features||Samsung Q7FN||Samsung Q8FN|
|Resolution||4K (2160x3840)||4K (2160x3840)|
|Sizes Available||55 Inch (QN55Q7FN), 65 Inch (QN65Q7FN), 75 Inch (QN75Q7FN)||55 Inch (QN55Q8FN), 65 Inch (QN65Q8FN), 75 Inch (QN65Q8FN)|
|Panel Technology||VA Panel||VA Panel|
|Backlighting Technology||Edge Lit Backlight||Direct LED Backlight|
|Local Dimming||Yes (Q Contrast Plus)||Full Array Local Dimming (Q Contrast Elite)|
|UHD Dimming||Supreme UHD Dimming||Supreme UHD Dimming|
|Moth’s Eye Technology||Ultra Black Elite||Ultra Black Elite|
|Picture Engine||Q Engine||Q Engine|
|HDR Performance||Q HDR Elite||Q HDR Elite|
|HDR Formats||HDR 10, HLG, HDR 10+||HDR 10, HLG, HDR 10+|
|Color Technology||Quantum Dot with Q Color||Quantum Dot with Q Color|
|Support 10 Bit||Yes||Yes|
|UHD Up-scaling Engine||Yes||Yes|
|Motion Rate||240 (native 120 Hz)||240 (native 120 Hz)|
|Smart TV||Tizen 2018||Tizen 2018|
|Processor||Quad Core||Quad Core|
|Remote||Samsung Smart Remote (TM1850A)||Samsung Smart Remote (TM1850A)|
|One Connect Box||Yes||No|
|Sound Output||40 watts||40 Watts|
|Price||See the price on Amazon||See the price on Amazon|
Technologies and features of Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN
As we see on comparison table above, the main difference between them is about their backlight technology where like the predecessor, Samsung Q7FN comes with Edge Lit Backlight with local dimming or called “Q Contrast Plus”. On the other hand, Samsung Q8FN brings the improvement over the predecessor where now it comes with Direct LED backlight with Full Array Local Dimming or called “Q Contrast Elite”. If previously, the local dimming of all models of Samsung QLED doesn’t work effectively in boosting the contrast due they use edge lit backlight, with Full Array Local Dimming, the contrast of Q8FN can be boosted significantly, makes it can produced deeper black level. This is a major factor why Samsung Q8FN is sold hundreds dollar more expensive than Samsung Q7FN.
The other difference between them is about the number of their USB Ports. For this case, Samsung Q7FN is equipped with 3 USB ports while Q8FN is only equipped with 2 USB ports. The other difference is about where their inputs/outputs are located. On Samsung Q8FN, all of their inputs/outputs ports are located on the side or rear of their panel, while for Q7FN, most of their inputs/outputs ports are located on a separated box called “One Connect Box”.
In term of appearance, both of them also have difference in their stand. Samsung Q7FN comes with T-stand type that sturdily supports the TV at the back center of the screen. On the other hand, Samsung Q8FN comes with V-stand that designed solidly and modernly that support the TV on the both side.
The excepting of what mentioned above, Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN comes with almost similar technology and features. On their panel, the excepting of their backlight technology, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN equally come with flat panel and VA panel technology. Additionally, for improving the contrast, in addition local dimming, both of them are also equally powered by Supreme UHD Dimming. Both of them also equally come with moth eyes technology called “Ultra Black Elite”. It is an anti reflective screen technology that design that reduced the glare and at once also deepen black. The excellence, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN equally comes with an advanced Samsung’s Quantum Dot Technology called “Q Color”, allow them to produce excellent wide color gamut, even can be said the best in 2018.
As their picture engine, both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN are equally powered by Q Engine. This picture engine is optimized for HDR experience that allows you to enjoy HDR experience with smooth and clear HDR picture quality. If in last year, Samsung HDR TV only supported HDR10 and HLG only, in this year, Samsung HDR TV lineup including Q8FN and Q7FN also support HDR10+, a new HDR formats as the enhancement of standard HDR 10. Basically, HDR10+ is based on HDR10, format. The difference is about where their metadata for remapping brightness and color is sent. If on HDR10, it uses static metadata where the metadata is sent at the beginning of the content, HDR10 uses dynamic metadata where it is sent at every scene, makes the brightness and color can be re-mapped more precisely at every scene. This method is similar to what used by Dolby Vision format.
For maximizing its performance in handling motion blur when they are playing fast moving images like sports or fast movies, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN are equally supported by Motion Rate 240 technology based on native 120 Hz refresh rate panel. Not just that, for help the motion looks clearer, both of them also equally have an Optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode called “LED Clear Motion” that allows you to adjust frequency of flicker depending on the frame rate of the contents. Meanwhile, the excepting of the number of USB ports and where their ports are located, both of them are also equally equipped with 4 HDMI ports as their major connectivity and other inputs/outputs like Component IN, Ethernet, Digital Audio Out, and others.
As their smart TV platforms, both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN are also featuring the same smart TV platform, that is Tizen 2018 version that powered by a quad core processor. In addition to it has easy navigation and a lot of attractive apps, in this year, Tizen OS has been integrated with Samsung’s Bixby Voice Assistant and Smart Thing Home Intelligence assistant. Samsung’s Bixby allow you to do a lot of more with your voice command while Smart Thing allow you to control your other home compatible device like Dish washer, Laundry machine and others. And for allowing you to enjoy HDR experience with impressive sound quality, they are equally equipped with 4.1 channels speaker system with 40 watts of Sound Output.
Samsung Q8FN vs Q7FN performance
Contrast and Black Level
Essentially, both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN has almost identical native contrast ratio and their native contrast ratio is excellent. This means, with local dimming disabled, both of them has similar native contrast ratio. But even so, since Q8FN comes with Full Array Local dimming that very effective to boost the contrast, this makes its contrast ratio is far strong than Q7FN. But otherwise, the use of Full Array Local Dimming precisely makes its black uniformity is not as good as Q7FN. But even so, its black uniformity is still excellent. On the other hand, the local dimming of Q87FN is not too effective in boosting its contrast ratio, even there is no meaningful improvement in its contrast when its local dimming is enabled. As the note, as default, their local dimming is in condition active and to disable it, you must set via advanced service menu. This means, in normal use, the contrast ratio of Samsung Q8FN is far stronger, allows it to produce deeper black level than Q7FN. The result, combined to its excellent black uniformity, dark room performance of Q8FN is excellent, even when it is displaying dark scene. Additionally, black level reached by Q8FN is also dark enough to show shadow details excellently of HDR images like the recommendation of UHD alliance or the creator’s intended. On the other hand, although black level reached by Q7FN is not as deep as what reached by Q8FN, it is also quite deep to show black looks really black, even when set in a dark room where the impact of high contrast ratio is very sensitive. Its black level is also dark enough to reveal details images on dark scene of HDR images like the intended, makes shadow details of HDR images displayed on their screen looks excellent. With their excellent performance in showing dark scene, this certainly makes them as a good option for you who like watch horror or thriller movies.
While Samsung Q8FN has stronger native contrast ratio that make it can produces deeper black level, in term of peak luminance, Samsung Q7FN is a bit superior. When playing SDR contents, overall, Q7FN can reach about 700 nits of peak brightness, while peak brightness reached by Q8FN is only a bit more than 500 nits. Additionally, when playing HDR contents, the peak brightness of Q7FN is almost identical to when it is playing SDR contents. On other hand, when playing HDR content, Q8FN can reach brighter peak brightness than when playing SDR contents that is brighter than 600 nits. Nevertheless its peak brightness is still under what reached by Q7FN. The other excellence of Q7FN, for a short time, it can deliver more than 2000 nits at about 10% of window size while with the same window size, Q8FN only can reach a bit brighter than 1200 nits. But the excellent peak brightness reached by Q7FN for small window size is only for s short time, while after its peak brightness has stabilized, its peak brightness drops to below 1000 nits. Otherwise, Q8FN can maintain its peak brightness for a long time, even when peak brightness has stabilized. Additionally, their peak brightness equally drops when showing larger window size, but for this case, the declined that occurred on Q7FN is not as significant as on the Q8FN. Nevertheless, overall, their peak brightness is equally bright enough to fight the glare and combined to their excellent reflection handling, make both can maintain their good picture quality when set in bright room, even for a room with much light.
With this brightness specs reached by them at some conditions, we can conclude that overall, Samsung Q7FN can show brighter HDR images than Q8FN. Additionally when showing dramatic highlight of HDR images for a long time or when showing an object with almost or alls objects are bright, QFN also can show brighter than Q8FN. Nevertheless, when showing a dramatic highlight of HDR for a long time, Samsung Q8FN can show brighter peak brightness. This means, for normal use, Samsung Q7FN might be able to show brighter HDR images than Q8FN but when showing a bright small object like dramatic highlight of HDR images for a long time, Samsung Q8FN can show brighter. Additionally, both of them might be equally able to show highlight of HDR image at 1000 – 4000 nits of brightness like the creator’s intended, but for this case, Q8FN can show more consistent than Q7FN. The other excellence offered by Samsung Q8FN, since it use Full Array Local Dimming, when showing a small bright object in dark background, unwanted adjacent lights around small bright object or called “blooming” can be minimized more, makes the blooming is less visible on the screen of Q8FN than on Q7FN.
As we have mentioned, the color gamut delivered by both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN are equally excellent. They can cover nearly 100% of DCI P3 color space that means it is great for HDR contents, particularly HDR10 and HDR10+ which mastered in DCI P3. This means, almost all colors in DCI P3 can be shown fairly accurate, makes colors of HDR images displayed on their screen looks very accurate, even for dark greens where most of modern TVs struggle to show these colors accurately. Additionally, both of them also have excellent color volume, the best in 2018. But a bit unfortunate, both of them cannot produce deep colors fairly well. But even so, overall, the excepting of very deep colors, both of them can show their excellent color gamut at their entire brightness range. The result, combination of their excellent wide color gamut and color volume makes their colors rendition is outstanding, can be said the best in 2018. Additionally, both of them are also able to well-process 10 bit depth color, makes color gradient of HDR images displayed on their screen looks fairly smooth. Some color bandings may be still visible, particularly at darker colors, but fortunate, this is not bad and most people will not notice this much. Overall, although not the best or not as good as OLED TV or Sony X900F, overall, color gradient of Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN is fairly good.
Side Viewing Angle
Unfortunately, you can enjoy amazing picture quality displayed on their screen only if you watch them from the center and front. Started at about 20 degrees off center and front, their color and black level will look degrade, and from the wider viewing angle, their color and black level degradation is more striking. Additionally, although as narrow as black level and color, their brightness also will reduce started at about 30 degrees off center and front. This means, when viewed from the side, the picture displayed on their screen will not look as good as when viewed from the center and front and from the wider angle you watch TV, the picture will looks worse. With their limited side viewing angle coverage, watch TV from the side or outside their side viewing angle coverage should be avoided.
Motion Handling and 24p Playback
Although not the best for LED TV and still far from OLED TV, but the pixel response time of both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN is equally excellent and almost identical, low enough to make motion looks clear and smooth with almost no motion blur noticeable when they are playing fast moving images like sports or fast games. Following fast moving objects, there is only a short ghosting trail where most people might not notice that. The blur that might be visible may be more caused by persistence than motion. On other hand, since both of them have local dimming technology, to dim the screen, both of them equally use PWM Dimming system. But for this case, normally, Samsung Q8FN uses higher PWM dimming frequency that is 480 Hz while Q7FN uses 240 Hz of dimming frequency. For the people who sensitive to flicker, this certainly makes flickers will be more noticeable on the screen Q7FN than Q8FN. Meanwhile, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN also equally have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) that can be activated by enabling “LED Motion Clear”. Once this mode is enabled, the backlight will be dimmed at 60 Hz. This mode is very useful to clear up the motion, particularly when they are playing 60 fps contents like sports or video games. But on the other hand, since its backlight is dimmed at 60 Hz of dimming frequency, this certainly makes flickers will be more noticeable. For you are more comfortable with flicker than blur, you can enable this mode. But otherwise, for you who are more comfortable with blur than flicker, you can disable this mode. Additionally, since both of them have native 120 Hz refresh rate panel, they are able to interpolate both 30 fps and 60 fps up to 120 Hz fairly well.
Meanwhile, when playing 24p movies, both of them offer similar performance. The excepting of 24p movies via 60i signal like movies from satellite TV, both of them can show almost all frame rate contents smoothly with judder free. This means, no matter the source is native 24p videos like Blu Ray or DVD’s movies, 24p videos via 60p signal like movies from streaming media, or 24p videos from streaming apps like Netflix, YouTube, Amazon Videos, all of them will be displayed clearly and smoothly with judder-free. Meanwhile, the inability of Samsung Q7F and Q8F in removing the judder when playing 24p movies via 60i signal actually is unusual. We expect there is a firmware update that will fix this issue. On other hand, since most people don’t sensitive to judder, this certainly is also not a major problem for them.
As their major inputs/outputs, both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN are equally equipped with 4 HDMI ports where all of them already support HDCP 2.2, CEC, and HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth. Additionally, they also equally have 1 port that support ARC (Audio Return Channel) that is HDMI 4. But like we have mentioned above, Samsung Q7FN has a bit more of USB port those are 3 ports while Q8FN is only equipped with 2 USB ports. In addition to USB and HDMI ports, both of them are also equally equipped with 1 RF IN, 1 Ethernet, and 1 Digital Audio Out (Optical) and equally not equipped with Component and Composite In. The other difference, most inputs/outputs of Q7FN is located on separated box called “One Connect Box” while on Q8FN, its inputs/outputs are located on its side or rear panel.
Meanwhile, discussing about their input lags in PC or Game Mode, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN equally have excellent input lags. With less than 20 ms of input lags at any resolution, their input lags are low enough to play any kind of games so feels responsively, even for fast paced games that require fast reflexes. And combined to their amazing picture quality, good motion handling, risk-free from permanent burn-in, this certainly makes both Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN as a great TV for playing games.
As their smart TV, both Samsung Q7FN and Q8FN are featuring the same smart TV that is Tizen 2018 that powered by a quad core processor. Like last year version, Tizen 2018 has intuitive layout and easy to navigate. The core of this smart TV platform is a “ribbon” at the bottom across the screen or called “Smart Hub” where the shortcuts of all apps, menus, settings are located. It is customizable that means you can move the most used or popular apps to the front while the rarely used apps can be moved to the back. This certainly allows you to open your favorite apps quicker. Additionally, preinstalled apps provided are also very complete and diverse. There are VoD (Voice on Demand) apps like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Videos, HuluPlus, and many more, Web Browser, Live TVs, Cloud Games, and many more. It also has an app store called Samsung’s apps store. What provided by Samsung’s apps store might not as complete as what provided by Google Play Store by Google Android TVs, but apps, contents, games, and others which are provided by Samsung’s App Store also can be said very complete. Additionally, now, Tizen OS also have supported Samsung’s Bixby Voice Assistant that allows you to do a lot of more with your voice commands. Like other smart TV platform that also already support Home Intelligence Apps like Web OS with its LG’s AI Think or Google Android TV with Google Home Assistant, Tizen OS also has its own Home Intelligence Apps called Smart Thing. But unlike the competitors that also already support Amazon Alexa, Tizen OS doesn’t support Amazon Alexa.
The many apps and features provided by Tizen 2018 might makes it is more attractive, but on the other hand, this makes its performance is inconsistent and slightly slower than previous version. Once you launch an app, sometimes, it needs 2-3 seconds before the app opens. Additionally, animation is also often choppy and frames also drop frequently. But even so, overall, Tizen OS is excellent smart TV platform.
As the controller, both of them have an identical remote, that is is Samsung’s smart controller. Their remote is small and only have few buttons. There are not many common use buttons. This remote actually is very simple and only can be directly used for basic controls. While for most things, you must navigate through the menu or use voice commands. Fortunately, have been integrated with Samsung’s Bixby, this makes it has excellent voice navigation. With your voice commands, you can change the inputs, open apps, set volume, change setting, and even ask some basic question. Nevertheless, unlike LG or Sony Remote, this remote cannot be used to search within apps. Additionally, this remote also has universal ability, allows you to control other devices connected your TV via HDMI ports, even not only devices which supports CEC, but with a feature called “OneRemote” it also can be used to control other devices which have not support HDMI CEC.
|Performance||Samsung Q7FN||Samsung Q8FN|
As we have discussed a lot above, the main difference between Samsung Q8FN and Q7FN is about their backlight where Samsung Q7FN comes with Edge Lit LED backlight with local dimming while Q8FN comes with Direct LED backlight with Full Array Local Dimming. As the impact, Q8FN has stronger contrast and black level but on the other hand, its black uniformity is not as good as Q7FN. Additionally, overall, no matter they are playing SDR or HDR contents, peak brightness of Q8FN might not as bright as Q7FN. When showing a dramatic highlight of HDR contents for a short time, peak brightness of Q8FN is also not as bright as Q7FN. But even so, when showing highlight of HDR images, peak brightness of Q8FN is more consistent than Q7FN. This means, when showing a bright small object in dark background, Q8FN can maintain its peak brightness above 1000 nits for a long time, while on the screen of Q7FN, although for a moment it can show highlight of HDR images far brighter than 1000 nits, but after it is stable, its peak brightness drops to below 1000 nits. Meanwhile, the excepting of black level and peak brightness reached by them, their performance is almost identical, whether it is about their colors rendition, motion handling, input lags, or others.
So, which one is a better choice between them? If your main consideration in buying TV is picture quality, Samsung Q8FN certainly is a better choice. But even so, to get it, you must spend hundreds dollar of your money to get Q8FN. On the other hand, picture quality and HDR performance offered by Q7FN is also not far behind Q8FN, so if you want a cheaper model, Samsung Q7FN might be the best alternative for you. Now, the decision comes back to you according to your budget and preferences.