Samsung Q900 / Q900R vs Q9FN Review (QN65Q900R vs QN65Q9FN, QN75Q900R vs QN75Q9FN)
Samsung Q900 or Q900R is the world’s first TV that comes with 8K resolution (7680 x 4320). Actually, it has launched on around October, 2018. This means, with the presence of Q900R, the era of 8K TVs has begun. In the market, it comes with the number of screen sizes available, from 65 inch (QN65Q900R), 75 inch (QN75Q900R), 82 Inch (QN82Q900R), 85 inch (QN85Q900R), up to 98 Inch (QN98Q900R). On the other hand, Samsung Q9FN is the flagship of Samsung’s 2018 4K QLED TV Lineup. Just unlike Q900R that comes with many screen size option, Q9FN comes with only two screen sizes options, which are 65 inch (QN65Q9FN) and 75 Inch (QN75Q9FN). With the same screen sizes (QN65Q900R vs QN65Q9FN, QN75Q900R and QN75Q9FN), Q900R is sold thousand dollar more expensive than Q9FN. So, except their resolution, what are the differences between them?
Samsung Q900 / Q900R vs Q9FN Key Specs
|Technology and Features||Samsung Q900/Q900R||Samsung Q9FN|
|Screen Size Available||65 Inch (QN900RBFXZA), 75 Inch (QN900RBFXZA), 82 Inch (QN82Q900RBFXZA), 85 Inch (QN85Q900RAFXZA), and 98 Inch (QN98Q900DBFXZA)||65 Inch (QN65Q9FNAFXZA), 75 Inch (QN75Q9FNAFXZA)|
|Resolution||8K (7680 x 4320)||4K (3840 x 2160)|
|Panel Technology||VA Panel||VA Panel|
|Backlight Technology||Direct LED||Direct LED|
|Local Dimming Technology||Full Array Local Dimming (Direct Full Array 16x) with Ultimate 8K Dimming||Full Array Local Dimming (Direct Full Array Elite) with Supreme UHD Dimming|
|Ultra Viewing Angle Technology||Yes||No|
|Processor||Quantum Processor 8K||Q Engine|
|HDR Enhancement||Quantum HDR 24X||Q HDR EliteMax|
|HDR Supports||HDR10, HLG, HDR10+||HDR10, HLG, HDR10+|
|Color Technology||Quantum Dot||Quantum Dot|
|Blacks Enhancement||Ultra Black Elite||Ultra Black Elite|
|Depth Enhancing Technology||Q Contrast EliteMax||Q Contrast EliteMax|
|Up-Scaling Engine||UHD Up-Scaling||8K AI Up scaling|
|Motion Technology||Motion Rate 240||Motion Rate 240|
|Native Refresh Rate Panel||120 Hz||120 Hz|
|Smart TV Platform||Tizen 2019 with Bixby Voice Assistant||Tizen 2018 with Bixby Voice Assistant|
|Processor||Quad Core||Quad Core|
|Support Google Assistant||Yes||-|
|Support Amazon Alexa||Yes||-|
|Total Sound Output||60 watts||60 watts|
|HDMI Supports||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2, HDMI 2.1 Full Bandwidth (HDMI 4)||HDMI 2.0 Full Bandwidth, CEC, HDCP 2.2|
|All Inputs are located on One Connect Box||Yes||Yes|
|Price||See the price on Amazon||See the price on Amazon|
- The Main Difference between Samsung Q900 / Q900R and Q9FN
- Samsung Q9FN vs Q900 Performance
The Main Difference between Samsung Q900 / Q900R and Q9FN
As we know, the main difference between Samsung Q900 and Q9FN is their resolution. Samsung Q9FN comes with 4K (3840 x 2160) while Q900 comes with 8K Resolution (7680 x 4320). This means, Q900 has around 33 million pixels or quadruple the Q9FN that has around 8 million pixels. This makes the picture displayed on the screen of Q900R will looks much more details than the picture displayed on the screen of Q9FN.
Ultra Viewing Angle Technology
The new technology that brought by Samsung Q900 is “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer. This technology is similar to Sony “X-Wide Angle” technology we found on Z9F in last year. With this technology, Q900R can maintain its picture quality when viewed from the side. As we know, a TV with VA panel usually has poor side viewing angle. But this technology makes side viewing angle coverage of Q900R is better than most of VA TVs. Just like Sony Z9F, this technology also makes native contrast ratio of Q900R is far lower than most of VA TVs. On the other hand, Samsung Q9FN doesn’t have this technology. And just like most of VA TVs, Q9FN has excellent native contrast ratio but its side viewing angle coverage is poor.
Coming with 8K Resolution, Samsung Q900 is also powered by the processor called Quantum Processor 8K that can handling 8K content. Its task is not only for handling native 8K content, but it must also be able to upscale all of non 8K content to its native screen resolution. To do this, this processor has Up-scaling engine that based on Samsung’s AI technology. Meanwhile, coming with 4K Resolution, Samsung Q9FN is powered by Q engine that also has ability to up-scale non 4K content to 4K resolution. But for this case, its Up-scaling engine doesn’t support Samsung’s AI 8K Technology.
Both Samsung Q9FN and Q900R may be equipped with the same number of HDMI ports. All of their HDMI ports already support HDCP 2.2, CEC, HDMI 2.0 Full bandwidth and ARC (Audio Return Channel) on their HDMI 4. But the difference is the support of HDMI 2.1. For this case, Q900 supports HDMI 2.1 (HDMI 4) while Q9FN doesn’t support HDMI 2.0. This is about its ability in playing HFR (High Frame Rate) 120 Fps content via HDMI ports.
Samsung Q900 and Q9FN may both use Samsung’s Smart Controller as their remote. But physically, their remote is different. Q900R use TM1950C model while Q9FN use TM1890A model. These remotes have difference in physic. The remote of Q900R is identical to the remote of most of Samsung’s Smart TV lineup except Q9FN. This remote is small with a plastic finish. Meanwhile, with a metal finish, the remote of Q9FN looks more elegant than the remote of Q900R. But functionality, their remote is similar. They both are small and only have few buttons. There are only “Power on” button, “Direction Buttons”, “Home Button” and “Samsung’s Bixby Buttons” and others. There are no “Number Buttons” on their remote. Both of these remote are also equipped with built-in microphone for voice navigation, can act as universal remote, and support CEC menu. A bit addition on the remote of Q900R, it has some dedicated buttons to Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Hulu.
Samsung Q9FN vs Q900 Performance
Contrast and Black Level
The use of Ultra Viewing Angle optical layer on Samsung Q900R makes their native contrast ratio is far different. The native contrast ratio of Q900R is unusual, far lower than most VA TVs which available in the market. But fortunately, it has excellent local dimming that is able to boost its contrast ratio. It can still produce very deep black that is around 0.015 nits. Black level produced by Q900R actually is dark enough to show black looks really black even if it is placed in a dark room. Additionally, black produced by Q900R is also dark enough to reveal details of HDR images in a dark scene, makes shadow details of HDR images can be shown excellently like what intended by content creator. On the other hand, the contrast ratio of Q9FN is even far better. Its native contrast ratio actually is already very strong. And the excellence, its local dimming is also able to boost its native contrast ratio up to close to 20000:1, the highest contrast ratio that ever reached by LED TVs. The result, in a dark room or when showing shadow details of HDR images, its performance is excellent with very deep black that close to what reached by OLED TV.
Local Dimming Performance
Samsung Q9FN and Q900R both have Full Array Local Dimming and have similar number of dimming zones. And their local dimming performance is also almost similar and is great. Their local dimming technology is very aggressive to reduce blooming. The result, when they are showing a highlight or small bright object in a dark scene, there is only little blooming visible around the small bright object. But a bit unfortunate, when you are watching movies with subtitle, some blooming may be still visible around subtitle. Their local dimming is also able to boost their contrast ratio and peak brightness. Additionally, their local dimming is also able to extend their wide color gamut at their brightness range.
SDR Peak Brightness
With SDR content, their peak brightness is almost similar and their peak brightness is great. With real SDR content, peak brightness reached is close to 700 nits that mean it is bright enough to overcome the glare. When showing small highlight in a dark or dim scene, they can even show them brighter than 1000 nits. But even so, the bigger bright object in a scene they are showing, their peak brightness is dimmer. Meanwhile, when showing small highlight in a dark or dim scene, their peak brightness may be similar. But the larger area of bright object, the peak brightness of Q9FN is brighter than Q900R. Until when they are showing the whole screen is bright, peak brightness of Q9FN drops to around 650 nits while peak brightness of Q900R drops to around 300 nits. This means, the brighter of the scene that be shown, Q9FN can show brighter than Q900R.
HDR Peak Brightness
Meanwhile, with HDR content, their peak brightness is even brighter. With Real HDR content, the brightest area can be shown at around 1500 by Q900R and around 900 nits by Q9FN.With real scene, Q900R may be superior to Q9FN but with the test pattern, Q9FN is superior. When showing small bright object in a dark scene, Q9FN can show it brighter than 1600 nits while Q900R show it at around 1300 nits. Keep in mind, All these are reached is when the TV is set in “Movie” mode with local dimming set in “High”. Meanwhile, when their picture mode is set in “Dynamic”, Q9FN even can reach peak brightness brighter than 3000 nits while Q900R is close to 2000 nits. But unfortunately, this will hurt the picture accuracy.
And the larger bright object, just like with SDR content, their peak brightness also drops. And also just like with SDR content, with the same size of bright object, Q9FN can show them brighter than Q900R. Nevertheless, in general, their peak brightness is outstanding. Although not always, but often, in certain scene, they are able to show HDR images at 1000 – 4000 nits of brightness range intended by the content creator. As we know, at this time, there are not many TVs that can match their performance in peak brightness and show HDR images brighter than 1000 nits intended by content creator.
Samsung Q900R and Q9FN already supports wide color gamut. But for this case, the color gamut produced by Q9FN is a bit better than Q900R. Again, this may be due the use of Ultra Viewing Angle Optical panel on the screen of Q900 that reduce color gamut produced. In DCI P3 color space, color gamut of Q9FN can cover more than 97% while Q900R is only around 95%. Meanwhile, in rec.2020 color space, Q9FN can cover more than 78%while Q900 can cover around 75%. Nevertheless, despite their difference, their color gamut actually is really excellent. This means, almost all colors of HDR images can be shown accurately on their screen, even though some certain color may be still unable to meet the expectation.
Meanwhile, color volume of Samsung Q900 is also not as good as Q9FN. This is more due by the color gamut and contrast of Q900R is not as wide and strong as Q9FN. But even so, despite the superiority of Q9FN, they both can produce dark colors and bright colors just as good. This means, they are able to show their wide color gamut at almost entire their brightness range. The result, no matter they are showing dark or bright scene, color of HDR images displayed on their screen looks fairly accurate.
Samsung Q9FN and Q900 both already support 10 bit color. This means they can produce more than 1 billion shades of color, makes color gradient of HDR images displayed on their screen looks very smooth. In general, their color gradient is great. But even so, compare between them, again, Samsung Q9FN has better color gamut than Q9FN, particularly when they are displaying 4K HDR content. On the screen of Q9FN, color gradient can be shown without any major color banding. Some little imperfections may be still visible in darker color, but overall, its color gradient is great. On the other hand, although not as good as Q9FN, color gradient of Samsung Q900R can also be said great. Overall, there are also not major color banding visible, but in darker color, color banding is more visible than Q9FN.
Side Viewing Angle
As we have known, typically, VA TVs have poor side viewing angle. This means, the quality of the picture displayed on their screen will looks deteriorate when viewed from an angle. And this is also as true to Q9FN that use VA panel. On the other hand, although Samsung Q900R also uses VA panel, but it already has “Ultra Viewing Angle” optical layer technology that helps to maintain picture quality when viewed from the side. If on the screen of Q9FN, black level raise started at around 20 degrees off center and front, on the screen of Q900R, black level can be maintained up to 70 degrees off the center and front. Additionally, on the screen of Q9FN, color will look fade started at around 25 degrees, on the screen of Q900R, color will fade started at around 40 degrees. The result, when viewed from the angle, the picture displayed on the screen of Q900R looks remains accurate and more consistent than on the screen of Q9FN
Samsung Q9FN and Q900R both have excellent pixel response time. When they are playing fast paced content like sports or fast movies, the picture produced looks very smooth and clear with almost no motion trail visible. The blur that may be visible is more due to persistence. But even so, compare between them, Q900R has better response time, almost a half of Q9FN. When the pixel response time of Q9FN is around 15 ms, the pixel response time of Q900R is less than 10 ms. The result, if we look more closely, a ghosting trail behind fast moving object will looks shorter on the screen of Q900 than Q9FN. But even so, for most people with untrained eyes, their difference may be not too noticeable.
For dimming their backlight, Samsung Q9FN and Q900R both use PWM dimming system. But the difference between them is about their dimming frequency. Q900R uses 960 Hz while Q9FN uses 480 Hz of Dimming Frequency. With BFI mode disable, since Q900R much higher dimming frequency, backlight flicker is almost invisible in its screen. Meanwhile, although not as high as Q900R, the dimming frequency of Q9FN is actually high enough to make backlight flicker is almost invisible. Again, with untrained eyes, most people may not notice their difference between them.
Black Frame Insertion
As we have mentioned, when they are playing fast moving images, particularly for 60 fps content like sports or video games, blur that may be visible is more due to persistence. For solving this issue, both Samsung Q9FN and Q900R have an optional BFI (Black Frame Insertion) mode called “LED Clear Motion” that can lower the dimming frequency in order to match the frame rate of the content. And for this case, Q9FN and Q900 support both 60 Hz and 120 Hz. By enabling this mode, blur that caused by persistence can be reduced. But on the other hand, since its backlight flickers at far lower frequency, this will make the flicker of the backlight will be more noticeable. You can enable or disable this mode according to your preferences. If you more comfortable with flicker, you can enable this mode, otherwise, if you uncomfortable with flicker, you can disable this feature.
Samsung Q9FR and Q9FN actually both may have excellent input lags in Game and PC Mode. But for this case, compare between them, Q9900R has a bit better input lags than Q9FN. The input lags of Q900R is lower than 20 ms while the input lags of Q9FN is a bit higher than 20 ms. Despite their difference in input lags, actually, their input lags are low enough to make them are very responsive when used for playing games. No matter you playing fast paced or casual games, 1080p or 4K games, with HDR or without HDR, you will play them responsively without feel laggy. Meanwhile, the additional feature like FreeSync Variable Refresh Rate and Auto Low Latency make you more comfortable when playing games with Xbox One S or PC with certain GPU.
Smart TV Experience
Samsung Q900R and Q9FN both run Tizen as its smart TV platform and are powered by a quad core processor. The difference, Q9FN runs 2018 version while Q900R runs 2019 version. Their user interface is well design and easy to use. At the bottom across the screen, there is a strip contain bar contains shortcuts to popular apps and setting, allow you to access them quickly. Nevertheless, with newer firmware, the interface of Q900R is smoother than Q9FN. If on Q9FN, the interface often freezes, on Q900R, this issue can be reduced. Meanwhile, about apps provided, there are a lot of attractive and useful preinstalled apps provided. There are Amazon Prime, Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Web Browser, Games, and many more. There is also an apps store called “Samsun Apps Store” that provided tons of apps, games, contents, and more you can download them directly from your Samsung TV. Meanwhile, for improving their voice navigation, both of these versions have been integrated with Samsung’s Bixby Voice Assistant. Additionally, with Smart Things, these smart TV also allows you to control and monitoring your other compatible devices. The advantage of the newer version is now it has supported Google Assistant and Amazon Alexa while the older version has not.
Overall both Samsung Q9FN and Q900R have excellent picture quality. Almost all aspects of picture produced them are great whether it is contrast ratio, peak brightness, color reproduction, and others. Both of them also can do excellent job in handling motion, have low input lags and attractive smart TV platform. With performance offered by them, both of them have great performance for mixed usage. No matter you use them for watching movies, sports, TV show, HDR content, or playing games, you will feel pleased.
Compare between them, in some aspects like contrast ratio, peak brightness, color performance and others, Samsung Q9FN actually offer a bit better performance than Q900R, but the difference actually don’t have significant impact in normal usage. On other hand, in addition to some aspects like motion handling, input lags, smart TV interface and others, resolution certainly becomes the major superiority of Q900R over Q9FN. But a bit issue of Samsung Q900 as 8K TVs, at this time, there are not many native 8K content which available in the market. This means, to enjoy 8K experience, you may still rely a lot on the performance of its AI 8K Up-scaling engine. Which is a better choice between them? The decision certainly comes back to you according to your need and preferences.